What Is It About South Carolinians?

September 11, 2009 | Filed Under Editorial Cartoons 

What Is It About South Carolinians?

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13 Responses to “What Is It About South Carolinians?”

  1. Robert Ariail on September 11th, 2009 5:24 pm

    What is it about South Carolinians?

    With South Carolina Representative Joe Wilson’s indecorous outburst during President Obama’s address before a joint session of congress the other night, I had to wonder : What’s next - fisticuffs on the house floor? But wait, that’s already been done - and by a South Carolinian , no less.
    It was South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks who literally caned Massachusetts Sen. Charles Sumner within an inch of his life for his advocacy of the abolition movement in 1856. And as Brooks had his supporters for his act back then, so does Wilson now. But those supporters were wrong then and they’re wrong now.
    Civility and common courtesey to those with dissenting views is the true Southern way - when we digress from that paradigm we risk returning to a more violent period of our history.

  2. Uncleshag on September 11th, 2009 5:55 pm

    Rep. Wilson was wrong. Wrong time and place. He has apologized to the POTUS and his apology accepted.

    However, many voting citizens believe Joe Wilson was spot on with his unique message.

    Now we read from AP - Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling “You lie!”…

    I have the solution. Get rid of the Sandlapper trouble makers by removing SC from the Union. Maybe a few other states would like to come along. Texas, are you listening?

    Just please don’t throw us in the briar patch!

  3. kbfenner on September 11th, 2009 6:09 pm


  4. Leslie Dunn on September 11th, 2009 6:36 pm

    Did these Dems ever apologize for the ugly remarks made about George Bush? Did they ever apologize for booing him when HE spoke before Congress?

    No! They need to get off their high horse and be decent if they still know how.

  5. kelly on September 11th, 2009 7:27 pm

    I am a voting citizen & I DO NOT BELIEVE Wilson was “spot on with his unique message.” I can assure you I will never vote for Joe Wilson again. As a matter of fact, I am going to vote for his opponent - at least he conducts himself as a gentleman. Wilson does not even check his “facts” before he speaks. What has Wilson done to help the citizens - not just his rich republican friends - who can not afford health care or who are struggling with the few crumbs that the current Medicare system throws out?? I think all of those who want the gov’t to stay out of health care should immediately drop their Medicare, Medicaid, & Social Security and or opt out of those programs in the future as all 3 of those are GOV’T RUN PROGRAMS!! Joke Wilson is not fit to sit in the seat of the late true southern gentleman Floyd Spence. Even when he disagreed he knew the appropriate time and place to do so. What Wilson’s “unique message” did was to further the decaying respect Americans use to have for the office of President and the President himself. I could not, and still can not, stand Bush but my parents taught me to respect both the office and the person serving. We can no longer blame our elected officals for this country “going to hell in a hand basket,” the citizens are doing it all by themselves!

  6. Robert Ariail on September 12th, 2009 8:09 am

    You’re right, Leslie. The Democrats never apologized for their many uncalled-for offenses to President Bush, but it still doesn’t excuse Rep. Wilson’s outburst. On top of all that, Wilson claims his remarks were spontaneous, but I don’t think so. Each member of Congress is given a copy of the President’s speech in advance.

  7. Uncleshag on September 12th, 2009 3:25 pm

    Dear Robert,

    The envelope containing the copy of the speech should have also contained a draft legislation from the Executive Branch detailing how the savings on reducing fraud and waste will pay for his single payer plan.

    Daily, Medicaid spends 1.3 billion. The Congressional Budget Office estimates ZERO savings from Subtitle F in the House bill that deals with Medicaid program integrity.

    Congress and the Administration have no credibility on combating fraud in Medicare and Medicaid. They have rescinded regulations that would have ended abuses practices. They rescinded competitive bidding in Medicare that would have improved service for the beneficiary and lowered costs. To prevent illegal aliens from gaining access to taxpayer dollars, you have to have sufficient means of identifying them. Simply saying no funds will be used for illegal aliens is meaningless without the infrastructure and means to actually stop them from entering the programs.

    The Administrator of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services has not even been nominated let alone confirmed.

    I “drew” these facts from an article (link below).

    Please read and “draw” your own conclusions.

  8. Robert Ariail on September 12th, 2009 4:22 pm

    Point(s) taken- thanks ,Uncleshag

  9. Phantom 1 on September 15th, 2009 11:50 am

    Let’s see… Uncleshag quote, “I have the solution. Get rid of the Sandlapper trouble makers by removing SC from the Union. Maybe a few other states would like to come along. Texas, are you listening?”

    Interesting editorial in The State today (15 Sep 09), entitled “You lie — boy”, By Mareen Dowd. Didn’t realize Joe Wilson was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol, and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond.

    Betcha Uncleshag and Joe wear the same brand of confederate underwear…

  10. JTN on October 16th, 2009 3:50 pm

    Robert -
    I know this is old news, but for the purposes of making sure the truth is archived, and just for clarification - the members were not provided with a copy of the speech beforehand. When they walked in, they were provided a laminated card that contained bullet points and highlights of the speech - but not the speech itself. This was confirmed by several members of congress including Rep. Pete Hoekstra, who said it looked more like a menu at a fancy restaurant.

    As to what the contents of the card consisted of, I don’t know if there was any mention of illegal immigrants and health care - but even listening to Joe Wilson - he makes it very clear that he was well versed on the contents of the reform bill as it pertains to illegal immigrants - so it’s fair to say this may have been more planned than spontaneous - but even that’s debatable.

    Anyhow, I love your work - I wish you the best!

  11. Robert Ariail on October 17th, 2009 9:13 am

    I had read that members of Congress were given a copy of the speech and I assumed it was the entire speech and not an abridged version. Thanks for setting that straight.

  12. JTN on October 19th, 2009 1:25 pm

    I think that normally they are provided with a copy of the speech, and it is assumed so… or hmmmm, maybe a conspiracy. Was it the blue card or the red one? Which side of the aisle was Joe sitting on. :) Hoekstra and Wilson (in different interviews) both mentioned how they found it odd that they weren’t provided a copy of the speech stating similarly, “Normally, we get a copy…” Eh, what are you gonna do right? This administration has made it very clear that they have clearly mixed up the definitions of transparent and opaque - so it’s no shocker.

  13. old hippie on October 19th, 2009 4:39 pm

    hey Kelly and the rest of you “rock heads”!
    sometimes we have to take off our “southern gentlemen hats” and speak-up the truth.
    a lie is a lie is a lie! not a little whit one or a big bad one…..just a lie.
    i do not play politics, never have, do no claim any party affilitation, never have.
    our country has fought only one just war and that one created our country!!!
    study your history of your country.

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